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Roccstar on the Art of Rebounding Podcast: The Race to 180 Million Records Sold

From living in his car to creating “Fine China,” how faith, craft, and grit powered one of R&B’s most influential sounds.

In an unforgettable episode of The Art of Rebounding podcast, host Harold “Lefty” Williams sits down with Grammy-winning artist and entrepreneur Roccstar, peeling back the layers of a life that embodies every facet of the word “rebound.” What unfolds here is far more than an industry success story. It is a spiritual, emotional, and creative resurrection, shared in raw detail for anyone who has ever been knocked down and wondered how to rise again. The episode titled, Roccstar: The Race to 180 Million Records Sold is out across all major podcast platforms.

From Car Seats to Platinum Plaques

Before the flashing lights, sold-out records, and technology ventures, Roccstar was just a young boy in Inglewood, hustling to survive. At 13, he was winning comedy battles at the Laugh Factory. By 16, after being kicked out of his house, he was sleeping in his car. Roccstar talks about how those years and his journey shaped the man he’s become. Through it all, one thing never wavered, his faith, his belief in God and scripture, and showing up for himself.  A dancing phenom, internet sensation, rap battler, turned R&B singer and producer, Roccstar has had a dynamic career across entertainment and he goes into it all.

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

Fueled by faith, fearlessness, and an obsession with craft, he made his way from recording in bathrooms, to dating Genevieve Jackson, Michael Jackson’s niece, to working with legendary manager Chris Lighty, who gave him his first major deal, and a $70K advance when he had no bank account and was still hiding money in a shoebox, to being iced out by music executives after he got his first artist signed to a major record label. Roccstar shines light on what it means to make rebounds, and what it looks like to set up your own plays even if you are not sure where they will lead to next 

What emerged from the podcast episode was a masterclass in tenacity, self-reflection, and not giving up. 

The Voice You Let In – From Battle Raps to Charts: Identity Collision

Before the plaques, before producing and writing for artists such as Fergie, Chris Brown, J. Lo, Post Malone, and Ne‑Yo, Rihanna, Roccstar was a street-certified battle rapper. Swagger. Spontaneity. Verbal warfare. He lived for the moment. “I was on Smack DVD. I was at the Pit. I was Fight Club. I was up under Suge,” he recalled. “Every day I’m with Suge, I’m rapping with him everywhere he’s at.”

So when a studio session turned into something unexpected, it triggered what Roccstar and Lefty both described as a head-on collision with purpose.

“I got pulled into the studio to sing R&B,” Roccstar said. “And someone had the ear and discernment to hear me in the booth singing.”

He resisted. “I was arguing with them,” he said, referring to legendary producers Tim & Bob. “I was like, bro, I don’t sing. I rap. Singing is soft.”

But Tim & Bob saw something he didn’t.

“They had already sold 200 million records. They were like me now,” he laughed. “They heard it before I could believe it.”

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

Lefty called it immediately. “[God] says I can’t change your life until you are willing to let me change the voice that you are listening to. And you stepped in the moment and said come on, alright cool. I don’t think you were arguing. I think you were having a head-on collision with purpose.” Roccstar added in chuckling, “Yeah, and an identity battle.”

Roccstar shared, “I wasn’t foolish enough to block my blessings. A lot of people do that. They’ll go too far into their own understanding. That’s why Gods says ‘Trust the Lord with all your heart and lean not into your own understanding’”

That line lingered. It was not just a turning point. It was a confession. Purpose, when it finds you, rarely matches the version you rehearsed in your head.

Studying Your Craft

Once he stopped resisting the shift, Roccstar didn’t waste time. He dove in.

“I went in there and took my pen so crazy,” he said. “I was used to freestyling, so I wrote a record in 20 minutes.”

But writing wasn’t enough. This wasn’t about mastering one skill. It was about becoming just good enough at everything so that he could create something worth listening to. That instinct to tinker, adjust, learn, fueled his drive to ask questions, to expand his mindset and his skills. 

“I was so attentive,” he said. “I knew that every single thing I was going to be hearing, learning, stumbling across could be life changing in the future.”

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

With nothing but a laptop, a mic, and a willingness to ask questions, Roccstar transformed himself from a performer into a multi-faceted creator.  His answer was simple. Relentless repetition. Study. Humility. And a sponge-like hunger to soak in every drop of the craft.

“I was trying to become just good enough at everything until I could create something worth listening to.”

Eventually, they stopped laughing.

“I played something and they were like, who did that? Who wrote that? Who did the beat? Send over the files.”

He didn’t just teach himself how to engineer and produce. He taught himself how to wait—not passively, but with intention.

“I was perfecting my craft,” he said. “But I was still nobody.”

Nobody Until the Speakers Say Otherwise

There’s a moment in the interview that stings with recognition. Roccstar recounts the frustration of not being paid, even when the work was getting good.

“I’m perfecting my craft,” he said, “but I’m still nobody.”

With Chris Lighty in his corner and major label interest swirling, Roccstar was riding high. He got his first artist signed to Epic Records. He started building his own imprint. “People were tapping in. Producers were hitting me for placements. I had all the power.”

And then, dynamics shifted. “Chris Lighty died two weeks later…All my power goes out the window… I signed my artists over to a major. I just remember literally losing all my power in the music business. I went from labels being like, Yo, you got an artist signed. It’s just crazy…execs tapping in, and producers tapping in because they want a placement. I’m in there with this person, and everybody’s tapped in. And I remember going from there to being like, wow, I just lost all the power to the label not answering my calls. When I’m calling about my own artist that’s in sessions, and I’m like, Well, what’s up? What’s going on.” Even his own artist stopped answering.

That’s the part of rebounding few talk about: when you’ve done everything right, and still the floor drops out. Lefty saw it clearly. “Somebody’s listening to this right now and they’ve been on go,” he said. “It’s only over when you stop.” Roccstar didn’t stop. Roccstar added, “I only lose when I quit.. I either win or I learn.”

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

The Comeback Record

More than a year after the industry iced him out, the turning point came unexpectedly. Roccstar eventually reconnected with Mark Pitts, who admitted, “I shouldn’t mess with you, but I believe in you. You’ve always been solid.” Still, no immediate doors opened. Nearly a year passed, with Roccstar running out of money, unable to reach his own artist, and experimenting with side ventures like the early stages of Rockstar Wireless. Nothing stuck. Then, just as frustration peaked, Mark finally called back. The timing was uncanny.

Roccstar got a call from Mark to pull up to Glenwood Studios, where Chris Brown and his team were in the middle of a high-pressure writing camp. “I ain’t talked to Mark in a year, so I’m like, oh my god, wow. And at this point in time, I’m so seasoned now, I engineer better than you, I produce better than you, and I write better than you, guaranteed. Now every day, if you ask like Kevin McCall on when they used to come to the studio, every single day, I’m in there making five records a day, every day, for no purpose, just creation, creation, creation. My craft was so perfected. It was so I was so ready for anything, because now I gotta point to all these other people that don’t believe in I ain’t nobody. Okay, cool. I make the hits. Y’all don’t believe in me. Y’all like, Alright, cool. So now I pull up to Glenwood”, says Roccstar during the Art of Rebounding episode.

Chris Brown was there. So were the very people Roccstar had gotten into a scuffle with the night before (they were out at the same venue). Tension filled the air. Chris Brown’s manager at the time wasn’t thrilled to see him and initially questioned why he was even allowed in. But Mark insisted: “He’s with me.” That small window of trust became a door. Isolated in a back room, with everyone quietly betting against him, Roccstar went to work. In just a few hours, he delivered five fully produced tracks. About 50 people packed into the room, many already skeptical. One of the songs immediately cut through the noise. “Send that over,” Chris said. “Load it up.” From that session came eleven placements on Chris Brown’s album. “I had the first single, the second single, the third,” says Roccstar. Fine China, a hit record on the album, opened the floodgates with Roccstar resetting the sound of modern R&B in the process.

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

Fine China, A Turning Point

The creation of Fine China was nothing short of electric. Working in a back room where few were allowed, Roccstar built the record from scratch with PK, Dwayne Whitmore, Sevyn Streeter, and eventually Eric Bellinger, layering basslines, drums, strings, and melodies until the track carried the unmistakable energy of Michael Jackson. Having spent years in the Jackson family home while dating Genevieve Jackson, Roccstar felt connected to that frequency, and it poured into the record. The result was undeniable. Not only did it become Chris Brown’s defining single of the era, but it drew praise from Janet Jackson herself. “Whoever did that, I need to work with them,” she said, calling Fine China the closest she had ever heard anyone come to her brother’s sound. 

That record, Fine China, would go on to define a sonic era. “Chris Brown being him was the biggest catapult, the biggest platform I could be attached to,” Roccstar said. “As long as I delivered… we could write a smash. But if he doesn’t take it to the finish line? It’s a song in your laptop. And every time, he took it to every level.”

Fine China. Autumn Leaves. Summer Too Hot. Every day. Every record. Delivered.

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

“I changed the radio,” Roccstar said. “There was no live instrumentation like that. After Fine China, everybody started shifting.” Roccstar didn’t just wait for those opportunities. He built the skill stack to deliver when they came. 

His sonic fingerprints are all over the last decade’s hits. But it’s more than music. He changed the rhythm of possibility for those watching, young creatives still fumbling in the dark, unsure whether their experimentations are brilliance or noise.

He is proof that the process matters. That the time you think you are wasting might be the time you are sharpening your edge.

Harold “Lefty” Williams and Roccstar conversing on The Art of Rebounding Podcast.

When the Callbacks Start Again

Remember those people who stopped answering the phone?

“Once that Fine China happened, all of them people that wasn’t answering the phone now answer. They called… like it’s crazy. The same people wouldn’t answer the phone, calling me, telling me… bro, what are we doing? I got a check”

And this time, Roccstar had beats. He had a sound. He had receipts.

He’s made hits with Ne-Yo, Fergie, Rihanna, Usher. “I love J.Lo,” he said. “She gave me so much love off the rip.”

But even with all the accolades, his mindset didn’t change. “I don’t miss,” he said. “And if I do, I’m following up.”

I’m following up.”

More than Music

Roccstar is more than a Grammy-winning producer. He won a Grammy in 2025 for Best R&B Album for his work with Chris Brown on the 11:11 Deluxe Album. He’s the founder of Rockstar Wireless, the only Black-owned cell phone company in the world, and the creator of Trinity Social, a new digital platform challenging how we connect. His story is about music and building something that lasts, with depth and vision.

This episode doesn’t trade on celebrity or chart stats. Its power comes from something rarer: a transparent look at what it takes to build and rebuild in real time. It’s the way it tackles the real work of becoming, spiritually, creatively, and personally. Roccstar speaks directly to anyone caught between potential and progress, to those facing silence after effort, and to people who feel like their next move has to count. God’s wisdom, guidance, and grace run through every part of Roccstar’s journey. Paired with Roccstar’s honesty and Lefty’s thoughtful framing, this conversation does more than share a story. It maps out what it takes to rebuild from nothing and keep moving toward something greater.

What lingers at the close of the episode isn’t just the music, but the realness between two men who see each other as brothers. Roccstar speaks openly about defense mechanisms, the importance of trust, and how true loyalty turns friends into family. Lefty highlights his role as a father, celebrating moments like Roccstar’s Father’s Day gathering, where the backyard was filled with good food, good music, and fathers being honored. Beneath the accolades and platinum plaques, the conversation narrows to what matters most: fatherhood, brotherhood, and the responsibility to lead with authenticity.

The episode is out across all major platforms.

Roccstar on The Art of Rebounding Podcast: The Race to 180 Million Records Sold

The Art of Rebounding: A New Type of Conversation

Harold “Lefty” Williams isn’t here for surface-level talk. The Art of Rebounding podcast dives deep into stories of recovery, realignment, and radical self-belief. Through powerful interviews with athletes, artists, entrepreneurs, and leaders, the show unpacks what it truly takes to rebuild when life breaks you. If you’re building, recovering, or redefining your lane, this is one episode you’ll want to listen to with a pen in hand.

Stream ‘Roccstar: The Race to 180 Million Records Sold’ now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

About Roccstar

Leon “Roccstar” Youngblood Jr. is a Grammy-winning and nine-time Grammy-nominated music producer, songwriter, rapper, artist, and entrepreneur. He’s worked with major stars like Chris Brown, J.Lo, Usher, Rihanna, Fergie, and Post Malone, with standout credits on Chris Brown’s X and 11:11 Deluxe albums. His song “Rude” was featured on the Fifty Shades of Grey soundtrack, also earning a Grammy nomination. Signed to Atlantic Records, he released his debut single “Confidence” on Billboard and has been featured on VH1’s Love & Hip Hop: Hollywood and Basketball Wives. As a business leader, he’s the founder of Roccstar Mobile, partnered with T-Mobile, and the creator of the Trinity social app.

About The Art of Rebounding Podcast

Setbacks are universal, but comebacks are an art. Hosted by Harold “Lefty” Williams, former Harlem Globetrotter, producer, philanthropist, and founder of the Dare2Dream Foundation, The Art of Rebounding is where life’s toughest losses turn into the most inspiring wins. This is not just a sports show. It’s not just self-help. It’s raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, entertainers, thought leaders, and everyday heroes who’ve been knocked down- and found the courage to rise higher. Every episode unpacks real stories, hard-earned wisdom, and proven strategies to help you transform heartbreak, burnout, financial struggles, and life’s biggest setbacks into powerful fuel for your future. Because everyone misses shots. But the bold? The bold rebound. Premiering September 10th on The Los Angeles Tribune Podcast Network, Apple, Spotify, and everywhere podcasts are heard.

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